Doctor Who - Big Finish Audio Adventures

[phase5]

Originally Posted by Happy-Hangman

(edit) ... as the tone of the comment is clearly made with whimsical intent, but we get complaints.

It's clearly made with "whimsical intent".? Are you sure? I don't see it.

The only thing that disappoints me is that in an supposedly enlightened 21st Century SF community that there weren't more complaints. Maybe we need more female members. Oh, I forgot where I was. Now, that's a whimsical comment.

At least I know now what's considered acceptable. And here's some light reading for anyone interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_women

BTW:
"Misogyny (pron.: /mɪˈsɒdʒɪni/) is the hatred or dislike of women or girls. Misogyny can be manifested in numerous ways, including sexual discrimination, denigration of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification of women".

[Happy-Hangman]

And yet again Phase5's squabbling with Theta Sigma threatens to derail a thread.

Normally, a complaint having been made off-forum, I would not wish to post a response on-site. Your own comments, however, urge me to make an exception to that rule

You made a complaint about Theta Sigma's comment, P5. A complaint which was dealt with. As the comment was deemed to be a borderline infraction of our rules - an unfunny juvenile aside, at worst - only the slightest reprimand was made. However, the point remains that it was made. That you are unsatisfied with that response, and that we do not feel the need to whip Theta Sigma through the streets or proclaim him an outcast, is, of course, regrettable.However, throwing a strop because teacher hasn't entirely taken your side in this (latest) playground fracas hardly helps your case.

TS made a not terribly funny comment. Based on the tone of the particular post, the forum member's past history, and the lack of response from any other forum members since that comment was made, no further action was deemed necessary. As you are aware - again from PMs - your dissatisfaction with that response has been duly noted and communicated to other Moderators who, should they so wish, may comment further. We do not always agree.

Our policy with regard to sexism and objectification on this forum - as has been explained to you - has evolved out of many debates with (and by) our members over the years. Railing against occasional innuendo is heavy handed and, in my view, counter-productive. Our (many) female members are hardly reticent when it comes to making their opinions known on such issues. While many of us roll our eyes in disdain at certain comments with which we do not agree or approve, we're not going to launch thunderbolts from on high just to satisfy you.

If you feel the need to continue this debate regarding forum policy on sexism and objectification, then feel free to start a debate in the appropriate section of the site - the 'Discussion' forum. We'd welcome that. Such debates are, after all, how our current policy was arrived at - and where we were urged not to be quite so censorious.

That said, THIS thread will not be further derailed. Clear?

[Theta Sigma]

Originally Posted by Happy-Hangman

And yet again Phase5's squabbling with Theta Sigma threatens to derail a thread.

Normally, a complaint having been made off-forum, I would not wish to post a response on-site. Your own comments, however, urge me to make an exception to that rule

You made a complaint about Theta Sigma's comment, P5. A complaint which was dealt with. As the comment was deemed to be a borderline infraction of our rules - an unfunny juvenile aside, at worst - only the slightest reprimand was made. However, the point remains that it was made. That you are unsatisfied with that response, and that we do not feel the need to whip Theta Sigma through the streets or proclaim him an outcast, is, of course, regrettable.However, throwing a strop because teacher hasn't entirely taken your side in this (latest) playground fracas hardly helps your case.

TS made a not terribly funny comment. Based on the tone of the particular post, the forum member's past history, and the lack of response from any other forum members since that comment was made, no further action was deemed necessary. As you are aware - again from PMs - your dissatisfaction with that response has been duly noted and communicated to other Moderators who, should they so wish, may comment further. We do not always agree.

Our policy with regard to sexism and objectification on this forum - as has been explained to you - has evolved out of many debates with (and by) our members over the years. Railing against occasional innuendo is heavy handed and, in my view, counter-productive. Our (many) female members are hardly reticent when it comes to making their opinions known on such issues. While many of us roll our eyes in disdain at certain comments with which we do not agree or approve, we're not going to launch thunderbolts from on high just to satisfy you.

If you feel the need to continue this debate regarding forum policy on sexism and objectification, then feel free to start a debate in the appropriate section of the site - the 'Discussion' forum. We'd welcome that. Such debates are, after all, how our current policy was arrived at - and where we were urged not to be quite so censorious.

That said, THIS thread will not be further derailed. Clear?

I apologise for having to do this but phase5 is not sincere in his complaint but an act of opportunism to attack me. My comment was speaking accordingly to the content of Summer of Love and as I am not a member of the production team I am not responsible for its presentation.


Frankly I don't believe that phase5 has actually listened to Summer of Love and should not be complaining about something he has no knowledge of. In fact if you look at the post count in this thread phase5 made his first and (hopefully) only comment in this thread with that complaint. He did not come to this thread to offer any thoughts about the Big Finish releases but as an excuse to attack me and would have said nothing if my comment was said by someone else. He therefore has no credibility.

I have told your fellow moderator Paulky that I did not want to be bother by phase5 and I presumed he pass on that message to him. Therefore phase5 is harassing me after he was told not to do so.

It is therefore on a very good basis that I request that phase5 be thrown out of this forum on the basis of him having a disgusting motivation in coming to this forum and that is to harass me. To keep phase5 is to condone his harassment and that is unacceptable.

[Robin The Ripper]

Theta & Phase5 - you both realise that this forum has an "ignore user" function? All you have to do is activate that function on each other and Bob's your mother's brother, no more "harrassment" or bothersome tasteless remarks from you both, to you both.

Aaaaaaaaaaaanyway....

What is everyone's opinion about 'Son of the Dragon', the BF adventure where the Fifth Doctor, Peri and Erimem meet Vlad the Impaler? I really love it as James Purefoy is excellent as Vlad, as he always is, and he and Peter Davidson have very good chemistry together. The side plot with Erimem and Vlad's brother, Radu the Handsome, is very well written and acted, too.

[Happy-Hangman]

Theta Sigma and Phase5: ENOUGH, ALREADY.

It has been made very clear to both of you that neither the forum or the Moderating team has any interest whatever in taking part - or taking sides - in silly squabbling borne out of disputes on other forums.

Break OUR rules, behave aggressively or otherwise disrupt THIS forum and - like any other irritants - the pair you stand a very good chance of being suspended.

If you don't like one another, ignore one another - it is as simple as that. As RtR rightly notes, the 'Ignore User' function is readily available. Both of you seem intent on seeing the other thrown off the forum, largely for petty, personal reasons, and complain on-forum and to the Moderators about the slightest infractions. The latest complaints, concerning 'sincerity' and 'hypocrisy', take this to new levels.

So let me reiterate: what you do, or say, or think or feel, or the manner you choose to express these sentiments ELSEWHERE is none of our business, but your squabbling on THIS forum ends here and now.

Consider this a formal warning.

[Wibbles]

I haven't listened to much lately. Kinda dropped out after they wrote Charlie out so poorly. But with the 50th special coming up am thinking about dipping back in. Any suggestions for a couple of good audios?

[finkyjd]

I was an avid purchaser of Big Finish right up to 2005, when the arrival of the TV series made their (then) output feel very forced & uninspired (it was the 8th Doctor alternative universe season), a TV episode I don't like now and then I can live with, but £15 for something I don't want to hear again? No Thank You

That being said....of late BF have been luring me back into their fold, I've been experiencing the 8th Doctor again thanks to BBC7 Radio, Dark Eyes and then some hefty discounts on sale, which means my experience is so out of order it would give River Song a headache - but damn they're good

Dark Eyes is a great jumping on point for 8
Cobwebs starts a fabulous series of 5th
The 4th Doctor series sounds great
Love & War is a superb one off for 7th

Just listened to The Girl Who Never Was & the Condemned thanks to a promotion the other week....damn you Big Finish now I need to find out what the hell has happened to Charley!!

really, really pleased that they've upped their game and are now repeatedly giving quality stories across the Doctors for the first time in 8 years, I'm subscribing again.Very Happy boy

[Theta Sigma]

Trail of the White Worm:
Trail of the White Worm is the penultimate release of the Fourth Doctor Adventures season 1 with Louise Jameson as Leela from Big Finish Productions.
Released in May 2012 it was written by Alan Barnes and it is the first part in a two parter that concludes with The Oseidon Adventure.
Trail of the White Worm sees Geoffrey Beevers reprising his role as the emaciated Master marking the first time that he played alongside Tom Baker’s Fourth Doctor since the 1981 TV story Keeper of Traken.
Beevers had played the Master before for Big Finish alongside the Seventh Doctor in Dust Breeding & the simply titled Master.
For Leela her meeting of the Master here rectifies the fact that she had narrowly missed the Master in the TV series when she made her debut in The Face of Evil, the story that immediately came after The Deadly Assassin which had featured the emaciated Master even though he was first played here by Peter Pratt. When Beevers first played The Master in Keeper of Traken he was playing the same version as Pratt pretty much like when Richard Hurndall played the William Hartnell Doctor in The Five Doctors.
Other members of the Trail of the White Worm cast includes Michael Cochrane (Black Orchid/Ghost Light) and Rachael Stirling. Rachael Stirling along with her mother The Avengers legend Dame Diana Rigg will soon be seen in the TV series in The Crimson Horror.
In Trail of the White Worm, Cochrane plays Colonel Spindleton and Cochrane was in an earlier Big Finish story No Man’s Land featuring the Seventh Doctor, in which Cochrane played another colonel.
Trail of the White Worm plays on the Jonah and the Whale tale in which the giant white worm represents the whale.
While it is not bad playing on the Jonah and the Whale tale I find it hard to enjoy this story although quite good placing the Master in it and not bad cliffhanger leading into The Oseidon Adventure.

The accompanying interviews are enjoyable including talking about Tom Baker and Geoffrey Beevers back together as Doctor and Master along with the joy of the presence of Rachael Stirling both being an actress in her own right and who her mother is.