The All purpose Who Rumour/Spoiler Thread [I SAID SPOILERS!]

[badhat-h]

filming on xmas special -

http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2012/05...na-louise.html

[Of Mars]

Originally Posted by badhat-h

filming on xmas special -

http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2012/05...na-louise.html

From Moffat, in the above:
"I don't know, on this occasion, that the thinking particularly came from me, actually. I've always been open to anything that shakes [the series] up. I think that decision actually came from the BBC. But I've been well up for anything that we can do to shake up the transmission pattern, the way we deliver it to the audience and how long we make the audience wait, simply because that makes Doctor Who an event piece.

The more Doctor Who becomes a perennial, the faster it starts to die. You've got to shake it up, you've got to keep people on edge and wondering when it will come back. Sherlock is the prime example, as far as that goes. Sherlock almost exists on starving its audience. By the time it came back this year, Sherlock was like a rock star re-entering the building!

So keeping Doctor Who as an event, and never making people feel, 'Oh, it's lovely, reliable old Doctor Who - it'll be on about this time, at that time of year'. Once you start to do that, just slowly, it becomes like any much-loved ornament in your house - ultimately invisible. And I don't want that to ever be the case."

Blah-blah
Try giving us better Doctor Who, not an event.

[Mr Cairo]

how have i missed this Doctor Who Olympic special ... ?

141 pages in this thread so i am not going back through them all but no doubt its been posted before ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=GkP8W4D2k68#!

[Perdide]

Originally Posted by Of Mars

From Moffat, in the above:
"I don't know, on this occasion, that the thinking particularly came from me, actually. I've always been open to anything that shakes [the series] up. I think that decision actually came from the BBC. But I've been well up for anything that we can do to shake up the transmission pattern, the way we deliver it to the audience and how long we make the audience wait, simply because that makes Doctor Who an event piece.

The more Doctor Who becomes a perennial, the faster it starts to die. You've got to shake it up, you've got to keep people on edge and wondering when it will come back. Sherlock is the prime example, as far as that goes. Sherlock almost exists on starving its audience. By the time it came back this year, Sherlock was like a rock star re-entering the building!

So keeping Doctor Who as an event, and never making people feel, 'Oh, it's lovely, reliable old Doctor Who - it'll be on about this time, at that time of year'. Once you start to do that, just slowly, it becomes like any much-loved ornament in your house - ultimately invisible. And I don't want that to ever be the case."

Blah-blah
Try giving us better Doctor Who, not an event.

Hmm, given what Moffat says above then really he should dispense with having a series of DW at all and just persuade the BBC to have a "Mystery Movie" like NBC had in the 70s and just have a randomly rotating series of programmes throughout the year. Then we could have Who, Sherlock and umpteen other programmes running and the public wouldn't know what would be shown and when. If it worked for Columbo...

*Please do not take my paragraph above seriously, I think it's a crap idea. Moffat is wrong as he clearly has never heard of Returning Drama or Soaps, which are run on a near-continuous production loop as there is a vast public demand for them. They may be "a much-loved ornament" but when they're not on, my god do the public moan. In fact if there is one thing that's sure-fire to kill a series it's buggering about with its schedule to such an extent that people find it inconvenient to fit around their lives.

Sure Columbo worked but only because of Peter Falk. As for the rest of the programmes on my link I've only ever heard of Quincy... Guess the others weren't that popular in the end.

[Paulky]

Actually, I think The Moff has a point; the more they move it around and kneed it into new shapes, the more interesting it hopefully becomes.

[runalong]

I tend to agree with Paulky I think Moff isn't talking about a single episode version of Who but making a 7 year old show have a re- launch. Last year was getting daft with the Spring start times all over the place so a nice sensible autumn slot may help keep a live audience high - rather than watch it this weekend in the sun and heat

[glunark]

I dont care when they show it, as long as the episodes are entertaining and actually make sense.

[Grumpy old git]

Official show Twitter feed says Matt Smith to carry Olympic Torch tomorrow (Saturday) in Cardiff.

[Perdide]

Originally Posted by Paulky

Actually, I think The Moff has a point; the more they move it around and kneed it into new shapes, the more interesting it hopefully becomes.

I hope you're right - last time this sort of thing was tried was the Specials and that had a lukewarm reception and prior to that was in the 80s, just before it stumbled and fell into the dreaded hiatus! Can't blame a chap for being a bit nervous...

Originally Posted by runalong

I tend to agree with Paulky I think Moff isn't talking about a single episode version of Who but making a 7 year old show have a re- launch. Last year was getting daft with the Spring start times all over the place so a nice sensible autumn slot may help keep a live audience high - rather than watch it this weekend in the sun and heat

I always thought the summer episodes were oddly placed, as it's the very time of year that people would be off out to enjoy the weather - so later in the year would be good for me! (and hopefully many others). Having a relaunch is ok, no problem with that - though surely the time for that was when Matt came in and Moff took over, it is after all historically our inbuilt 'refresh' point. As you point out though there has been all manner of restylings of the broadcast schedule since then though and even contradictory statements from Moff and others that we'd "never be more than a few months from Who" - which has lasted only one series.

I don't want a single episode version of Who but neither do I want them to keep changing its broadcast position all the time. I didn't think last year worked that well (mostly because the cliffhanger was a bit daft compared to the previous week). I wonder with the influence of Pat Troughton on the Moff era if a deliberate decision was made to give us a Series 6 a&b much like there was always talk of an unseen Season 6b after Season 6. Possibly as an in-joke?

Originally Posted by glunark

I dont care when they show it, as long as the episodes are entertaining and actually make sense.

I think this is a statement we can all agree on!

Right, let's return to topic... Matt Smith with an Olympic (TM) torch! Well, I suppose we did expect A Doctor to turn up. Not sure why there are so many celebrities though, I thought the torch was supposed to be for the general public, you know - the whole reason they make people vote for the most deserving in the community to carry it? Wonder if Matt'll eBay it?

[Of Mars]

Originally Posted by Perdide

I hope you're right - last time this sort of thing was tried was the Specials and that had a lukewarm reception and prior to that was in the 80s, just before it stumbled and fell into the dreaded hiatus! Can't blame a chap for being a bit nervous...

I always thought the summer episodes were oddly placed, as it's the very time of year that people would be off out to enjoy the weather - so later in the year would be good for me! (and hopefully many others). Having a relaunch is ok, no problem with that - though surely the time for that was when Matt came in and Moff took over, it is after all historically our inbuilt 'refresh' point. As you point out though there has been all manner of restylings of the broadcast schedule since then though and even contradictory statements from Moff and others that we'd "never be more than a few months from Who" - which has lasted only one series.

I don't want a single episode version of Who but neither do I want them to keep changing its broadcast position all the time. I didn't think last year worked that well (mostly because the cliffhanger was a bit daft compared to the previous week). I wonder with the influence of Pat Troughton on the Moff era if a deliberate decision was made to give us a Series 6 a&b much like there was always talk of an unseen Season 6b after Season 6. Possibly as an in-joke?

The problem as I see it (a new member here), is that Moff is putting spin on something that is clearly nothing to do with what he says. I mean, the split series are to do with budget cutbacks to get one series in two years (which isn't his fault - I guess). Now, don't get me wrong, I love DW with a passion, and of course I would rather it be on than not, but it is very hard with Moffatt's version to get passionate.
Secondly why all this talk of a relaunch, like Perdide says here; that was the Eleventh hour, something must be worng if people talk of that.