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BLOG The Big Bang Theory

Some of us love it, some of us hate it, but either way The Big Bang Theory has a thing or two to say about twentysomething sci-fi fans. Eight episodes into season three, SFX blogger Laura McConnell is still loving it - today, she looks at geek stereotypes in the show and why she enjoys them:


The Big Bang Theory - A Lighter Look at Fandom

It seems that in sci-fi circles, The Big Bang Theory evokes strong opinions. People either love this show or can’t stand it. While I freely admit that I’m one of the former crowd, but I understand the latter opinion.

I get it. I really do. The Big Bang Theory isn’t science fiction. It’s not fantasy or horror, either. So I understand those folks who say that SFX shouldn’t cover the show (and it’s not mentioned in the magazine) or those that simply aren’t interested in it because it is a sitcom and not the next big thing in sci-fi. Then again, it’s not supposed to be the next big thing. Big Bang isn’t about being dark or gritty. It’s not trying to portray serious drama involving flawed heroes or any of the other currently fashionable trends in science fiction. No, The Big Bang Theory has the gall to be light and silly. It’s supposed to make us laugh. And apparently, it does so well. Enough of us sci-fi types find it funny enough to talk about it on the SFX forum and thus I’ve been allowed to discuss it here on the SFX site.

I know that some will argue this. They will say that Big Bang is not funny and in fact does nothing but poke fun at every geek cliché out there and thus is actually insulting to its supposed fan base. While I can understand that opinion, I do not agree with it.

Yes, Big Bang furthers some geek stereotypes. Sheldon Cooper, who is by far the best character on the show, thanks in large part to the comedic genius that is Jim Parsons, is socially inept and seems to only wear tee-shirts of a scientific or superhero nature. This does not resemble the typical real-world sci-fi fan, I know. We are so much more than that. But other things do resemble real life.

Sheldon gets upset when he has to go without internet. Who among us can’t relate to that?

He bemoans the fact that he missed Comic Con and the new Star Trek movie. Wouldn’t that upset you?

He and his friends ponder such mysteries as how Superman can catch Lois Lane in midair and not transect her with his arms as she falls at high velocity if he truly is the man of steel. You can’t tell me you’ve never had this conversation. Or go ahead and claim you haven’t if you must. Just rest assured I won’t believe you. Want to know why?

Because I love the internet. And I would’ve been really bummed if I’d had to back out of Dragon*Con or miss Star Trek on the big screen. I’ve had some fine conversations about physics in comics. I see more than a bit of myself in Sheldon (and the other characters), and I can’t help but laugh at the ridiculousness of their actions because it is the same insanity that mine sometimes display.

I’m no world-class scientist. I wear plain-colored scrubs to work. I’m pretty sure I can hold my own in social situations. I would never throw out perfectly good French toast just because it was oatmeal day, like Sheldon did in a recent episode, but you can bet your last pound that I go by my local comic shop on Wednesdays, just like the Big Bang gang, to pick up new issues.

I enjoy seeing that part of my life made extreme on television. I am completely comfortable with that aspect of my personality being gently made fun of. It makes me laugh at my TV and at myself. The quality acting, especially by Parsons, that makes the characters not seem like the caricatures they could so easily be and the roughly millions of references to other shows and comics don’t hurt my enjoyment of this show, either.

And when Wil Wheaton guest starred a few weeks ago in a true parody of all things Trek fan and Star Trek II, well, it just doesn’t get any better than that.

So who’s with me? Who can handle a little light fluff being thrown into this current universe of darker is better? Who among us is brave enough to handle the intentionally ridiculous? I know I am. Bring it on.


Bring it on indeed. This is a personal article by Laura McConnell, one of our volunteer bloggers, so give a big round of applause. Where do you stand on the Big Bang Theory? Your thoughts welcome as always, get stuck in...


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Sorry Laura, but I'm a hater. I'll happily watch many non-genre shows (here I should probably admit that 'Friends' is one of my all time favourite shows, including SF), but I find Big Bang painfully unfunny. It's not designed to be a show 'by the fans, for the fans' - it's intended to poke fun at us, to be a laughing stock for all the grey-shirts out there. Sure, why not, we're an easy target after all. Jocks flush our heads down toilets all the time. Well not me, I'm a 6'4" 17 stone slab of muscle, but I'm still a proud fanboy.
What's next? Humorous sitcoms about people in wheelchairs, making fun of the fact that they can't get up stairs? Or how about a comedy show about the BNP? That should get a few chuckles, especially from the types who like to flush peoples' heads down the bog...

Posted by PJ Bottoms (127.0.0.1) on November 24, 2009 at 04:46 PM GMT #

Big Bang makes me laugh, a lot. I loved Sheldon's response when Leonard turned off "The classic Deep Space Nine/ Original series crossover Tribbles episode." "Are you ill?" I could relate.

BTW, PJ I understand that you don't like it. Humour that works for some people can be like scratching a chalk board to others. But wheelchair vs. stairs was pretty funny when they did it on The Office.

Posted by Henrik's (127.0.0.1) on November 24, 2009 at 04:52 PM GMT #

Love it. 'nuff said.

Posted by Tim (127.0.0.1) on November 24, 2009 at 05:09 PM GMT #

Two for and one against so far. I'm sure we will see more from both sides soon. PJ-you bring up an interesting point. As a life-long athlete who ate, slept, and breathed sci-fi the whole time, too, I don't get the jock versus nerd thing. Never experienced it. When I was at Dragon*Con this fall, there was a huge college football game in town, too (I'm American, remember). I heard talk that this caused some strife occasionally. But I talked to the football fans and had a good time with them the same as the congoers. I guess I just got lucky. I feel no hostility towards the jocks. Then again, I can't stand Friends. To each their own.

Which brings me to Henrik. You are quite right. Humor is something that is very individual. And the line about "Trials and Tribblations" was absolutely classic! Who in their right mind would turn off that episode?

I must admit that the last few episodes haven't been quite as good for me, but they are still funny enough (to me) to warrant watching.

Posted by Laura Mc (127.0.0.1) on November 24, 2009 at 06:07 PM GMT #

So a comedy show isn't liked by everyone? OH MY GOD, SOMEONE ALERT THE INTERNET.

Posted by richard (127.0.0.1) on November 24, 2009 at 06:53 PM GMT #

Really enjoy Big Bang, it is funny, well written and the characters well portrayed by the actors. What is not to enjoy. So it exaggerates geek stereotypes, that is how a lot of good humour works and if you can't laugh at the things you recognise in it then you are taking yourself too seriously. It is comedy, not a vehicle designed specifically to poke fun at a genre. I like it for the same reasons I enjoy The Guild which also picks out the extreme elements in gamers. How can you not appreciate Sheldon going in fancy dress as the Doppler Effect?

Posted by Colin Cooper (127.0.0.1) on November 24, 2009 at 07:02 PM GMT #

I'm pretty new to the Big Bang Theory party (only got into watching it, after I saw the panel at Comic Con) and I must say I'm hooked on it. I bought the season 1 and 2 DVD sets and pretty much watched them over a weekend apiece.
I genuinely don't believe it's poking fun at us. There are so many nods, wink and in-jokes that I personally feel it's laughing with us, not at us. I feel like it gets us (even if the nature of comedy means it has to exaggerate some of the geek stereotypes). Whilst some of us don't necessarily fit into the 'geek stereotype', how many of us don't know someone who does?? Hey, maybe it's soaring popularity in the US (I understand it's now the number 1 sitcom?) might raise geek awareness and help the geek cause? After all, most of the characters in the show are pretty likeable.

Posted by Chrismk (127.0.0.1) on November 24, 2009 at 08:02 PM GMT #

I don't have many chances to catch it on TV (and they won't post any more than clips on the CBS website) so there are holes in my BBT knowledge you could drive a truck through. That said, I have really enjoyed the heck out of what I've seen. I like my entertainment to be *entertaining*, a problem I am having with all the dark, gritty "realism" movement in current Sci-Fi. I liked the cheesy bits in the new Trek movie as much as the rest of the story, and if they hadn't been there, it would have missed the mark entirely for me.
I certainly understand the vast differences in taste and humour out there, so I'm not trying to convert anyone. I would like to say, however, that comedy often is about taking quirks and exaggerating them, so we can feel comfortable at recognizing pieces of ourselves and relating to characters, but still laugh at them. I wouldn't equate nerdish tendencies to handicaps, either. For one thing, many of our geeky affectations are a result of choices we've actively made, not situations forced upon us by circumstance. For those portions of some of the characters that seem less under their control, like Sheldon's OCD ways, this show is hardly the first to make light of the problems those rigid rules can add to someone's life and social extroversion. Michael J Fox's character on "Scrubs", and to my undestanding, all of "Monk" for two.

While I agree it's not a "sci-fi" show, per-se, I equate it to "Spaced" somewhat in that it's a comedy about somewhat outrageous people, going about their lives, with some hilarious in-jokes and pop culture references that I find very rewarding to see.

And I really do get glazed over and miserable when my Internet goes down!

Posted by Beck (127.0.0.1) on November 24, 2009 at 08:37 PM GMT #

oh my god have a sense of humor PJ BOTTOMS I'm a geek and i can have fun with it don't take it to seriously mate its a funny show

Posted by GOZ (127.0.0.1) on November 24, 2009 at 08:54 PM GMT #

Great show

Posted by Morf (127.0.0.1) on November 24, 2009 at 09:26 PM GMT #

This is a wonderful show!

As a fan since season one I agree that there are some hit and miss moments but overall take it for the fun it is.

Where else could I enjoy a comedy that involves discussion about Kandorian drycleaners and have the entire history of Superma Comics explained in 15 seconds.

Posted by Jazz (127.0.0.1) on November 24, 2009 at 09:36 PM GMT #

The comparison with handicaps is related to the fact that Sheldon is not just nerdy, he displays classic elements of autistic spectrum behavior. This makes the humor based on his character in extremely poor taste, the equivalent of a comedy about a blind man who walks into walls and falls down stairs.



Posted by Joyous (127.0.0.1) on November 24, 2009 at 09:49 PM GMT #

I like it more as it gets more comfortable with itself and focuses more on the geek stuff and less on the "Will they, won't they" Friends stuff.

PJ, of course it's poking fun at geek culture, it's a comedy. The Office poked fun at Office Managers, and Fawlty Towers poked fun at hotel staff. Part of a healthy culture is being able to laugh at ourselves.
Personally, I'll take the jokes about not getting girls, if I can keep the joke about beating both Green Lanterns with a 2B pencil.
Also, if you don't think true geeks came up with Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock, you don't get down to the basement enough.

Posted by Tom Clarke (127.0.0.1) on November 24, 2009 at 10:07 PM GMT #

Joyous, the Asperger's Syndrome aspect of Sheldon's character has actually been embraced by a lot of members of the Asperger's community and their supporters. Somebody "gets" them. I've got a friend with this condition and for me, understanding why Sheldon is the way he is makes him even more endearing. People with AS know they've got it and they know how they cope with it. Like Sheldon.

As for your blind person analogy. Did you ever watch Mr. Magoo? Actually bad choice. It wasn't that funny.

Posted by Henrik's (127.0.0.1) on November 24, 2009 at 10:15 PM GMT #

Joyous, it's arguable that every good comedy is based around the severe emotional and mental problems of its cast. Certainly every single British comedy deals with almost nothing but emotionally scarred freaks. Look at Monty Python. Hell, look at Basil Fawlty (The episode "The Psychiatrist" springs to mind)

In the US there's Scrubs, which spends a great deal of its time laughing at the sick and the stressed. And Frasier, a show that never lets a multiple-personality joke pass by.
And lest we forget, Friends had that early episode with Phoebe's psychoanalyst boyfriend, where he analyses Ross, Monica and Chandler to the point where they all want him dead.

Why exactly should we exempt Sheldon's potential autism from being the butt of the joke, especially if he's successful despite it? That would be like saying we can't make jokes about David Brent because of the fact that he clearly has a paralysing need for the approval of others, or Barney Stimson because of everything that's wrong with him.
Actually, assuming that your diagnosis is accurate, Sheldon shows that you can have a productive and apparently happy life despite being autistic. He's got a good job, friends who care about him, and hobbies that allow him to manage his social interaction in a way he can handle.

Posted by Tom Clarke (127.0.0.1) on November 24, 2009 at 10:31 PM GMT #

"Humour... it is a difficult concept."

Posted by FreakyBeanz (127.0.0.1) on November 24, 2009 at 10:31 PM GMT #

I have been watching BBT since the very first episode and can rarely fault it, if at all. The writing is always spot on and wickedly clever, which is obviously helped by the immensely talented cast.

I think it is too easy to heap all the praise on Jim Parsons (he is fantastic as Sheldon, don't get me wrong), as the joy of the show for me is watching the guys together. The friendships between Sheldon, Leonard, Howard and Raj are endearing to say the least.

Yes, there are various stereotypes used in this show, but hey, that's what good comedy is based on. To the folks taking this point WAY too seriously - lighten up. I say, Thank God that this show exists. Ever since Friends finished, I can't honestly say that there has been much in the way of quality comedy to replace it, so this is just perfect.

I never thought for a second that Sheldon's "quirks" or characteristics had anything to do any kind of condition - some people are just very precise and controlled. All that has happened is that this aspect has been exaggerated in the writing. It's sad to think that there are people taking this point so seriously.

Long live BBT - always make me giggle.

BTW, Richard, your post needs a sarcasm sign.

Posted by Rose (127.0.0.1) on November 24, 2009 at 10:51 PM GMT #

I love the Big Bang, it's an extremely knowing comedy so we can laugh about the extremes of geek nature. I also love the fact that there's no morals or happy endings, episode just seem to close. Hilarious...

Posted by Dominic (127.0.0.1) on November 24, 2009 at 11:04 PM GMT #

Oh God, not another show that I simply have to watch! Its just too much, I think I will have to give up work to watch everything. That or give up sleeping. Speaking of which look at the time...

Posted by Fabricatus (127.0.0.1) on November 25, 2009 at 01:35 AM GMT #

Wow! Thanks for all the comments, guys.

Let's see...I think I'll respond from the bottom up. It's easier!

Fabricatus-I understand. It's getting late in my time zone now, come to think of it.

Dominic-good point. No preaching.

Rose-I concede your point on the others, but for me, Sheldon just rocks my world.

Tom Clarke-oh, you hit another nail on the head. Scrubs is one of my all time favorite shows. And I'm in medicine, so...yeah...

Henrick's-that's awesome to know. I had not idea that the AS community had embraced Sheldon like that. But Tom made a valid point about him. They should. He's an example of an AS person making it work for them.

Tom again-oh, laughing my butt off! So true about the Green Lantern joke, and RockScissorsPaperLizardSpock! Come to the basement, my friend!

Jazz/Beck/chrismk/Colin-exactly. And Colin? Long live The Guild! Greatness squared.

Posted by 127.0.0.1 on November 25, 2009 at 04:01 AM GMT #

Yeah, that last post was obviously me. My bad.

Posted by Laura Mc (127.0.0.1) on November 25, 2009 at 04:01 AM GMT #

Would just like to add that it's great to see this brilliant show get some just recognition in SFX. Having just read Jane's column in the recent mag about programs that aren't Sci-Fi but are for us 'Geeks' I fully agree that this is one of them. Now all I have to do is catch up with the rest of Season three.

Posted by Rob Cox (127.0.0.1) on November 25, 2009 at 07:59 AM GMT #

My family also love the show, including my 14-year-old autistic son. When I mentioned to him that some people thought Sheldon's character was making fun of autism, he didn't get it - he thinks Sheldon is 'very cool and very intelligent, with a brilliant job'.

I agree with Chrismk - I think there are too many in-jokes for the show to be poking fun at us. It's a well-written, tight show, with an excellent cast who are obviously having a ball.

And as a teacher, I have to say, the term 'geek' is no longer the huge insult it used to be. I hope shows like this are helping.

Posted by Angela Jade (127.0.0.1) on November 25, 2009 at 08:19 AM GMT
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Hey all,

I for one think this show is great. Catch it as much as I can and don't mind the little bit of poking fun at us geeks.

I hope this show carries on for as long as it can.

Take care,
Matty-lad

Posted by Matty-lad (127.0.0.1) on November 25, 2009 at 10:30 AM GMT #

Loads of good points here. I love comedy, I really do-in fact I find humour in almost any situation, often much to my missus's bemusement-but I just don't find Big Bang Theory funny. Maybe I don't get it! In response to this article I tried to watch the show again this morning, but it only reaffirmed my position. But good on you, all of you who like this show. I wish I could join you all in the basement!

BTW Henrik you're right, the UK office did disabled people on the stairs in a totally hilarious way. The US Office is even better actually. Pant-wettingly funny. Unlike BBT. Sorry.

Posted by PJ Bottoms (127.0.0.1) on November 25, 2009 at 11:19 AM GMT #

I love the show.

The only problem is Leonard's haircut. No one has hair that bad.

Posted by Freddie (127.0.0.1) on November 25, 2009 at 11:27 AM GMT #

I wish my hair was as good as Leonard's.

Posted by Henrik's (127.0.0.1) on November 25, 2009 at 01:10 PM GMT #

I'm a lover and actually, freakishly enough, have literally just ordered a rock paper scissors lizard spock tshirt for myself as part of a Christmas shopping frenzy bonanza (what? I saved loads of cash, it practically counted as free!).

I caught the odd episode on Channel 4 and initially did find it a bit patronising, but actually if you sit down and give it a chance the humour of it and the affection shown to all the characters is pretty sweet. And I loved the episode where Penny got addicted to the Warcrack equivalent - who couldn't relate to that? ;)

Posted by Narin (127.0.0.1) on November 25, 2009 at 01:27 PM GMT #

"Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock" and Sheldon "Thats my spot" Cooper...love it. Love this show. i thought I would be a hater, after all how many of us have watched a show with the "Nerdy/geeky" best friend and wanted to punch all involved? However with The Big Bang Theory it gets so much right that it would seem childish to not forgive its odd, little stumble in the wrong direction.

Sheldon Cooper has to be one of my all time favourite characters on TV (and in a list that consists of Willow, Kara Thrace, Faith and Donna Noble) I think you see that its a hard list to break into for anyone with a pesky Y chromosome (but seeing as Sheldon is more likely to procreate through Osmosis I think thats okay) and Jim Parsons is a revelation in the role; at the same time arrogant, yet oddly innocent and childlike...

...sometimes the jokes miss the mark, and sometimes the stereotypes are a little 'old school' but The Big Bang Theory isn't (in my opinion) written/acted by people who are maliciously taking the proverbial out of Sci-fi, instead there are embracing it and giving it a little respect...which is more than can be said for a lot of current 'mainstream' sci-fi shows.

May The Big Bang Theory live long and....oh dear god kill me now...

Posted by 127.0.0.1 on November 25, 2009 at 02:37 PM GMT #

Big Bang Theory isn't just about geeks - it's about geeks who work in *academia*. Universities are strange places at the best of times. From my experience, with the exception of Darlene from Roseanne's attitude to sex, it's pretty much a documentary.

And, for the record, I find it very funny indeed.

Posted by Mentalist (127.0.0.1) on November 25, 2009 at 02:39 PM GMT #

So once again I'm the lone naysayer in this thread. I must say it's pretty lonely not being a sheep. Bah.

Posted by PJ Bottoms (127.0.0.1) on November 25, 2009 at 03:09 PM GMT #

I've recently discovered BBT and enjoy it. Once thing I like is that it gets the geek references right. How often do you hear "Flash of Two Worlds" or "The Dark Phoenix Saga" referenced on a network sitcom? And accurately to boot!

Posted by Greg Cox (127.0.0.1) on November 25, 2009 at 03:12 PM GMT
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To PJ Bottoms

Fair play to you for explaining why you don't like the show, without referring to the usual 'it just sucks' that I see on the website all to often! (even if you are wrong) ;)

Posted by Chrismk (127.0.0.1) on November 25, 2009 at 04:44 PM GMT #

Love this show, and loved to see sheldon making cylon toast!

Posted by mostmagicalcat (127.0.0.1) on November 25, 2009 at 05:42 PM GMT #

I also must give props to PJ. It is completely within his rights to dissent, and I can totally see how BBT is not funny for some. It's an odd bit of humor. But Chrismk makes a very valid point that PJ has not resorted to "well, because it sucks!" mentality or name-calling (and for that matter, I don't think anyone else has against him) so well played to all. Thanks!

Oh, and Mentalist, I used to do biochem research, and you are SO right. Universities are very odd places indeed.

Narin-I overheard a group of boys playing Rock/Paper/Scissors/Lizard/Spock a few months ago. They were about ten or eleven. I was so happy to see geeklings in action! (In fact, their little story is in my "to write" list...one day I'll get that done!)

Angela Jade-very cool about your son!

Rob Cox and Greg Cox-thanks! I agree!

Posted by Laura Mc (127.0.0.1) on November 25, 2009 at 07:11 PM GMT #

PJ, you're not alone. I've got friends who can't stand BBT. Humor is very personal. I suppose that's why we care so much about the things that make us laugh.

Posted by Henrik's (127.0.0.1) on November 25, 2009 at 07:32 PM GMT #

One other thing that I love about BBT, is the fact that for the last two weeks, the 18-49 ratings for it have beaten Monday Night Football in the US (source = aintitcoolnews). For me, this is a sign that geeks are becoming more socially acceptable and are even beating the jocks!

Posted by Chrismk (127.0.0.1) on November 25, 2009 at 07:58 PM GMT #

That is true, PJ - you're not alone in the universe. (Why do I feel the need to quote "Jose Chung's 'From Outer Space'" from The X-Files?) Only on thread for some reason. Of course, that might be because other dissenters didn't click it to begin with. It does self-police a bit there, no? Anyway, I'm all about to each their own, so again I salute you.

And Chrismk-you're right, though this trend has been happening for a long time. It's geek chic. Everyone knows it's cool to be a geek now. So much so that we have to deal with poseurs, like the "cool" kids did before. Honestly, the roles are totally reversed now. I think that athletes are now treated badly in the popular media. (Dumb jock needs nerd to do his homework for him, etc - the athletes I grew up with all did their own, thanks!) Funny how life goes like that. Cycles.

Posted by Laura Mc (127.0.0.1) on November 26, 2009 at 12:28 AM GMT #

Laura

You know, I hadn't actually made that connection about the way jocks are often portrayed, but you're right! Do you think this is because Hollywood writers/producers were picked on by jocks as kids and are now getting their revenge? ;)

Posted by Chrismk (127.0.0.1) on November 26, 2009 at 09:34 AM GMT #

The third season of this great show is on in the UK from the 17th December 9pm on E4 for anyone who is waiting to see it.

Posted by Rob Cox (127.0.0.1) on November 26, 2009 at 10:27 AM GMT #

Chrismk - I don't know why that is. Your theory sounds as good as any, though I think perhaps it might be that all stereotypes are an easy way to get a laugh if made extreme (and that's okay, if done well). All I know is that every group seems to get its fair share of parody. It just comes in cycles and waves.

Incidentally, I answered this comment earlier today (and if I recall correctly, my answer was much wittier/I know I'm forgetting something), but it looks like it never posted. Perhaps I got the math wrong. I did play sports, you know, that's entirely possible. ;)

Posted by Laura Mc (127.0.0.1) on November 26, 2009 at 10:39 PM GMT #

Oh, um, hey, Dave? I just noticed something up top there. And you know...I left twentysomething behind a while ago. ;)

Posted by Laura Mc (127.0.0.1) on November 27, 2009 at 03:48 AM GMT #

I've always thought that the bbt was less written for hardcore geeks and more for those who have those friends who've had the arguement about who'd win in a fight between a Borg cube and the death star.we get the humour,we understand the, most of the in jokes but doesn't get bogged down in jargon or scifi cannon.all in all, a really good show.

Posted by David (127.0.0.1) on November 27, 2009 at 04:17 PM GMT #

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